Muse founder and change marketer Jackie Bebenroth speaks with Chris Janke from Health in the Real World about the idea that change is cyclical, not linear, and how understanding this idea can help you (or your clients) create long-term transformation over time.

Listen to:

  • Learn how to communicate the benefits of change in a wellness setting
  • Understand the method behind lasting customer relationships
  • Reframe your setbacks into positive outcomes

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